Open letter to Gary

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Abra Ca Dabra | 23 Jan 2010 - 7:35pm

While you are on here acting all righteous in your crusade against Islan why don't you tell us all
why it is that you can't leave my 2 teenage daughters alone? My husband and I did not know
until last night what has been happening and come to find out you have been doing this for a YEAR!

My 13 year old won't even come here anymore because of YOU. My 15 year old has been fighting
back against You this whole time by herself. This will stop now.

After your little stunt last night we will make sure of it. You are not playing with children anymore.

SO TELL US ALL WHY YOU ARE AFTER CHILDREN GARY !!!!

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femaleinevc | 23 January 2010 - 7:58pm

who is gary?

femaleAbra Ca Dabra | 23 January 2010 - 8:36pm

I got the PM. How do you think I found that disgusting profile you made calling me a whore
so my young children could see it. What kind of pathetic grown man would do that.

There is 1475 miles between my house and yours but I can see from here that my daughters
are more intelligent than you. If you can figure out how to write a profile then I damn sure
know my girls can.

You don't what you have started now but will find out.

maleObaraten | 23 January 2010 - 8:46pm

Um what has any of this got to do with the Mailfriends Community channel?


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femaleAbra Ca Dabra | 23 January 2010 - 8:53pm

When a so call MAN makes a profile calling a parent a whore so that her children can see it does
that not concern the "Community" ? Does this mans behavior not concern the community?

maleObaraten | 23 January 2010 - 9:11pm

Abra Ca Dabra wrote:
When a so call MAN makes a profile calling a parent a whore so that her children can see it does
that not concern the "Community" ? Does this mans behavior not concern the community?

Have you reported this to the admin?


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femaleAbra Ca Dabra | 23 January 2010 - 9:19pm

I don't think it will make any difference. What I have been told is that this site has tried to ban
this person already.

femaleUNDERBELLY | 23 January 2010 - 10:57pm

You say that you and your Husband didnt know anything about this till last night???
According to your so called 15year old .. Your Husband knew about this long ago..he even has a phone call with Gary..You both got the so called police involved...none of what you are saying quiet rings true.
I think either your daughter is one damn good liar or you my dear need to get your head out of your ass and KNOW what your children are doing on the internet.its called responsible parenting.


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femaleAbra Ca Dabra | 23 January 2010 - 11:36pm

We did not know until last night. I have talked with my daughter and she has told me the reason
why we were not informed about this. And she did say she had told people before that the police
had been called in an attempt to get this man to leave her alone. She said she never told anybody
that my husband had talked to this man before. I can't understand her reasoning because she has
always known that she could come to us about anything. But then again that is not any of your
business now is it.

You sound like you are defending what he has done here. But, you have defended him before. If
for any reason you can read what I said he has done and then blame my daughter I think you
should get YOUR head out of your own ass.

malebutterflyluva | 23 January 2010 - 11:44pm

Sleeping

femaleAbra Ca Dabra | 23 January 2010 - 11:50pm

One other thing Daisy, If Gary has some kind of problem with my daughter then why did he not
just write to me like adults and talk about it.

No, he had to make a profile calling me a whore and I like to sleep with dogs and then post a link
to it in a group that he knows she moderates.

Defend that.

femaleUNDERBELLY | 23 January 2010 - 11:50pm

Abra Ca Dabra wrote:
We did not know until last night. I have talked with my daughter and she has told me the reason
why we were not informed about this. And she did say she had told people before that the police
had been called in an attempt to get this man to leave her alone. She said she never told anybody
that my husband had talked to this man before. I can't understand her reasoning because she has
always known that she could come to us about anything. But then again that is not any of your
business now is it.

You sound like you are defending what he has done here. But, you have defended him before. If
for any reason you can read what I said he has done and then blame my daughter I think you
should get YOUR head out of your own ass.


Ohhh for someone that has only JUST found out you seem to know all the little bits and bobs now dont you !!I did defend him yes and got my ass burnt for it too..SO your admitting your daughter has lied here..so how can you trust what she says is true.. she has lied to us here saying the police are involved..her Father has spoken to Gary..what else is lies??you have posted this in the community channel.. which makes it everyones business. if you didnt want imput.. why did you post it???I thinks you are not the Mum.. but this little girl herself..


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femaleAbra Ca Dabra | 23 January 2010 - 11:59pm

Here is the profile that he made. See it for yourself. He made this and then posted from it in a
group she moderates so he would be sure she saw it. Defend his actions.

http://www.mailfriends.com/penpals/Judy+Cumbucket

femalenunyabiznees | 24 January 2010 - 12:38am

I agree with Underbelly, if you post it in the community channel here, you're making it everyone's business. Pretty much, you opened this particular can of worms.

And Lord knows, I'm the last to defend Gary. I am, however, a parent. And if my daughter has had so-called run-ins with anyone online, I would NOT waste my time online..since you said nothing gets done, anyways. I don't even know why you bother. As a parent, you better believe my FIRST move with be to bring this to the attention of the authorities. I would create a stink so that the situation would be taken care of, instead of wasting it lambasting someone online. Futilely, I might add. I understand your need to vent..but you really are going about it the wrong way. Mailfriends admins have been trying, as you well know, unsuccessfully, to get rid of Gary from here, once & for all. We know where that's going. You need to be MORE proactive. Threatening isn't getting you anywhere. Why even bother with this?

"SO TELL US ALL WHY YOU ARE AFTER CHILDREN GARY !!!!"

Make good on your threat....

This will stop now.

"After your little stunt last night we will make sure of it. You are not playing with children anymore."

Although, like I said..as far as threats go..that's a really ineffective one. You & your husband arguing back & forth with him here isn't accomplishing anything. If your child's welfare is endangered, do what any parent (logical) parent would do. Get the police involved. Someone. Anyone.

And good luck.


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maleNordstorm | 24 January 2010 - 2:01am

Abra, I have to agree with nunyabiznees that you are wasting your time here. There are laws in
the United States that may cover this or part of. If this guy has been stalking your child for a year
as you say theres a good chance he may have broken a law. I am in law enforcement but I'm in
the enforcement part not the law part so I don't know. I would talk to a lawyer if I were you.

As far as what UNDERBELLY said, she seems to have an agenda here. Sounds to me like you may
have said something about her friend and she is coming to his defense.

I looked at your profile and knew right away who you daughter is. She was one of the first people
to welcome me when I came here and seemed polite and intelligent.

If this guy Gary is the same one I am thinking about I have had my run-in with him also. He did
not like something I said about one of his posts and started bombing my profile with PM's and guest
book entries. I had to turn off my guestbook because of it. He is just a smart ass and the only way
he knows how to get anything done is to act childish. The fact that he made that profile about you
and then made sure your child would see it proves that. There is no excuse for him to do that.

I have a 4 year old son and thank god he's not on the internet yet. I have no idea what the internet
will be like when he is your childs age but if something like this happened to him I would be mad
also and need to "vent". Feel glad he lives 1500 miles away so you can think about it before you
get the chance to put your hands around his neck. If he lived next door you may be in jail tonight.

malebutterflyluva | 24 January 2010 - 3:13am

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Sounds like a lot of Hocus Pokus to me!
Is this the naughty Gary who pops on here from time to time, posts a topic..........
and before you can say ABRACADABRA, it has been magically whisked away?

femaleUNDERBELLY | 24 January 2010 - 4:24am

Nordstorm wrote:
Abra, I have to agree with nunyabiznees that you are wasting your time here. There are laws in
the United States that may cover this or part of. If this guy has been stalking your child for a year
as you say theres a good chance he may have broken a law. I am in law enforcement but I'm in
the enforcement part not the law part so I don't know. I would talk to a lawyer if I were you.

As far as what UNDERBELLY said, she seems to have an agenda here. Sounds to me like you may
have said something about her friend and she is coming to his defense.

I looked at your profile and knew right away who you daughter is. She was one of the first people
to welcome me when I came here and seemed polite and intelligent.

If this guy Gary is the same one I am thinking about I have had my run-in with him also. He did
not like something I said about one of his posts and started bombing my profile with PM's and guest
book entries. I had to turn off my guestbook because of it. He is just a smart ass and the only way
he knows how to get anything done is to act childish. The fact that he made that profile about you
and then made sure your child would see it proves that. There is no excuse for him to do that.

I have a 4 year old son and thank god he's not on the internet yet. I have no idea what the internet
will be like when he is your childs age but if something like this happened to him I would be mad
also and need to "vent". Feel glad he lives 1500 miles away so you can think about it before you
get the chance to put your hands around his neck. If he lived next door you may be in jail tonight.


No agenda here.. as far as Gary is concerned he can look after himself.. but As a parent myself.. do you not wonder what your children are doing on the internet??
All i am saying is she is running around here for the last 12 months or so.. crying and lying..this is why i dont talk to her anymore and why i partly quit being a MOD.. she is a sneaky little girl who needs a good smack on the ass..you just admitted she is a liar..
keep your child off the internet if you dont like what she is playing with..it si that simple


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femaleCarreras | 24 January 2010 - 5:53am

First. Daisy, I have no idea what you are talking about. Nordstorm is no kin to me. I have only
talked to him once or twice.
As far as you being a moderator, we know why you are not one anymore and it has nothing to
do with me. It has to do with you. Maybe you should smack yourself on the ass.
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I have been here at Mailfriends for 3 years now. I made my first profile just after I turned 12.
During that time I have met hundreds if not thousands of people.

Out of all the people I have met here I have only had a problem with ( 3 ), Gary and 2 of his
friends. All the others I have been kind and polite too or if needed just ignored.

When Gary says I stole his profiles, thats a lie. I taught myself how to make these profiles and
Gary does not like it. Period. He can get over it. From now on anybody who asks me to make a
custom profile for them I going to do it. For as many people as I can !!!

I made moderator at 14 years old and have tried to do the best job of it that I could. And I will
continue to do so. I am proud to be a moderator of this site.

My mother and father are mad but not so much with me. The only thing they are mad at me
about is not coming to them with this problem. When it is said that my parents should know
what I am doing online, WHAT AM I DOING WRONG ? I am not the one that made the profile
calling my mother a whore. I am not the one that before made a profile calling my father a
homosexual drag queen and I am not the one starting the problems here. Gary is.

My parents would not let me have a cell phone till I was 15. Or join Facebook. or MySpace.
They let me join Mailfriends at 12 because there was no IM's and pictures could not be sent
in e-mail. My begging helped a little. How's that with parents keeping up with online activities.

I decided before christmas that I would not say anything about Gary again and I have not but
it just seems that every now and then he has to take a poke at me and my family. And he does
it in the most hurtful way he can. If he would leave me and my family alone then that would be
it. END OF PROBLEM,

Truthfully, I don't care if he falls off the face of the earth. His 2 friends can go with him.

I am sorry for telling a couple of people that my parents knew what was going on. That there
was a problem. The reason I did not tell my parents and tried to handle this myself is because
I was afraid my father would make me leave Mailfriends.

The problem is not me. Thats all I have to say and my mother is not going to say anymore.

Good-bye ................. Chelsea Carreras


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femaleUNDERBELLY | 24 January 2010 - 6:36am

Carreras wrote:
First. Daisy, I have no idea what you are talking about. Nordstorm is no kin to me. I have only
talked to him once or twice.
As far as you being a moderator, we know why you are not one anymore and it has nothing to
do with me. It has to do with you. Maybe you should smack yourself on the ass.
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I have been here at Mailfriends for 3 years now. I made my first profile just after I turned 12.
During that time I have met hundreds if not thousands of people.

Out of all the people I have met here I have only had a problem with ( 3 ), Gary and 2 of his
friends. All the others I have been kind and polite too or if needed just ignored.

When Gary says I stole his profiles, thats a lie. I taught myself how to make these profiles and
Gary does not like it. Period. He can get over it. From now on anybody who asks me to make a
custom profile for them I going to do it. For as many people as I can !!!

I made moderator at 14 years old and have tried to do the best job of it that I could. And I will
continue to do so. I am proud to be a moderator of this site.

My mother and father are mad but not so much with me. The only thing they are mad at me
about is not coming to them with this problem. When it is said that my parents should know
what I am doing online, WHAT AM I DOING WRONG ? I am not the one that made the profile
calling my mother a whore. I am not the one that before made a profile calling my father a
homosexual drag queen and I am not the one starting the problems here. Gary is.

My parents would not let me have a cell phone till I was 15. Or join Facebook. or MySpace.
They let me join Mailfriends at 12 because there was no IM's and pictures could not be sent
in e-mail. My begging helped a little. How's that with parents keeping up with online activities.

I decided before christmas that I would not say anything about Gary again and I have not but
it just seems that every now and then he has to take a poke at me and my family. And he does
it in the most hurtful way he can. If he would leave me and my family alone then that would be
it. END OF PROBLEM,

Truthfully, I don't care if he falls off the face of the earth. His 2 friends can go with him.

I am sorry for telling a couple of people that my parents knew what was going on. That there
was a problem. The reason I did not tell my parents and tried to handle this myself is because
I was afraid my father would make me leave Mailfriends.

The problem is not me. Thats all I have to say and my mother is not going to say anymore.

Good-bye ................. Chelsea Carreras


And are you sorry for telling some of us that your parents were drunks and that you sneak out of your window at night to meet boys??? CHELSEA.. YOU NEED TO REMEMBER YOUNG LADY A GOOD LIAR NEEDS TO HAVE 1 OF 2 THINGS .. A DIARY KEEPING TRACK OF YOUR STORIES OR A BLOODY GOOD MEMORY..YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A SPOILT LITTLE GIRL AND AS I SAID YOU NEED YOUR ASS SMACKED REGULALY I SAY !!!


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femaleCarreras | 24 January 2010 - 6:54am

I know that I said I would not say anymore on this subject but I can't resist this one.

Daisy, you childish older person. I never told anyone that my parents are drunks. That is
a Gary Lynn story. You and Gary have a better chance of being drunks than my parents.

********************* BUT YES, YES, YES ***************************

I SNICKED OUT OF THE HOUSE ONE NIGHT TO MEET A BOY I LIKED.

EXCUSE THE HELL OUT OF ME FOR BEING A TYPICAL TEENAGER.


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femaleepicbutterfly | 24 January 2010 - 7:12am

honestly i think gary can be pretty cool when he wants to be. he obviously has talent in scripting. why not put ur knowledge to good use instead of trying to run a crusade. u love creating, why not make mailfriends better.

i think gary could be a pretty cool asset to this community and not be deleted at hello, if he agreed to stop trying to be hateful.

gary why not just be u, ur not bad. i think u just fell into the crowd that talks anti islamic smack, we all know if u don't fall into the anti islamic crowd here, ur shit upon and abused by mods.

why not leave religion and politics out and make friends in a friendship website or maybe that's just too uncool for people to do around here.

best wishes.


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there's always a "happy" in everything! Wink

femaleepicbutterfly | 24 January 2010 - 7:26am

btw.. messing with kids, preteens. not cool ever. fyi.


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malebutterflyluva | 24 January 2010 - 8:01am

Oh boy......why don't you all pm each other with your petty little he said, she said, I said quarrel?
Then you can abuse each other and bicker merrily amongst yourselves? :quarrel:
Why put it all up in lights? Who is telling the truth? With all these different versions, we will never know!
Who gives a fat rats anyway? Rolling eyes

Sleeping

maleintell1 | 24 January 2010 - 8:53am

The code is not a complicated and if nine months were spent on it, that is way too much time for such a simple HTM code. The text boxes on this site support limited code, and anyone with basic knowledge could figure it out very easily. If the design was that important and that much time spent on it, then it should have never been given out in the first place to anyone. If the intent was to market and sell the code, procedures should have been done to accomplish that, not by giving it out. I do not buy such a story one bit and what has occured on this site is unacceptable. Nothing can justify such behavior from an adult on any social site. The site was designed for people to meet up, not trash them. If we cannot conduct communication with each other in a civil fashion or monitor the content, then the site should be shut down, period. To get upset over a supposed stolen code and then spend countless time harassing a teenager and her family is just wrong and should not be tolerated. Gary you are way out of line, I strongly suggest you knock it off and if you cannot control yourself, then just move on and get off the site entirely. Find something constructive to do instead of such harrassment. Those who defend him on that course of behavior, come on guys, put a little more effort into your thought processess on that one. There is no justification for his behavior, none, it cannot be defended.


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femaleGreen_Grapes | 24 January 2010 - 9:32am

Abra Cadabra send Carreras away!!
Send the Spoiled little brat away..
She is nothing but a big pain in the butt problem.!!
Spoiled little girls never turn out right..always have some mental problem or another.
Spoiled little girls who don't know better and lie should not be moderator.
You know I have complained to sarahg many times about this young girl.
You know i think she has a serious obsession with Gary. You know maybe its the fact that she comes off that she likes him a little to much...hmm i don't know. I think she think shes fallin in love with him..hey who knows..Childish little spoiled liars are pretty much not very intelligent. Smile

femaleGreen_Grapes | 24 January 2010 - 9:35am

PSTTT Carreras does ya mommy spend time on a corner?? Just wanting to clear up about ya mommy being a whore...
Not trying to be smart here..just wanting a answer

femaleUNDERBELLY | 24 January 2010 - 11:00am

Who is Michael Carreras .. and why did you use this to make threats??
listen i really dont care what you think of me.. but little girl when you start doing exactly what you accuse others of doing..and all these lies that have come out just today..how can you sit here and say you are being honest..Your a tattler and cant be trusted..I quit being a mod the moment i saw that you sit here and keep track of who is on and when..I know romuors went around saying I sent Gary that shit you wrote..i know i didnt.but i realy dont give a rats ass ..you have alot to learn littlegirl..i hope you wake up real soon before you land yourself into a situation you cant get out of.


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femaleUNDERBELLY | 24 January 2010 - 11:15am

Carreras wrote:
I know that I said I would not say anymore on this subject but I can't resist this one.

Daisy, you childish older person. I never told anyone that my parents are drunks. That is
a Gary Lynn story. You and Gary have a better chance of being drunks than my parents.

********************* BUT YES, YES, YES ***************************

I SNICKED OUT OF THE HOUSE ONE NIGHT TO MEET A BOY I LIKED.

EXCUSE THE HELL OUT OF ME FOR BEING A TYPICAL TEENAGER.


Yes a spoilt teenager..and yes i am young at heart thanks. If this is your so called Mother well i dont know why she just didnt report it to admin..but its not really hard to see the apple dont fall far from the tree now does it..You know why i never asked you for a favour?? cause i picked ages ago when we used to talk on MSN YOU CANT BE TRUSTED!!!I may be 45 darling but i do have kids of my own and i certainly didnt come down in the last shower..as for being a drunk.. i would love to be some days.. especially today after reading this pile of pathetic whinning from a spoilt little girl..


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femaleLeaa | 24 January 2010 - 12:48pm

I would seriously think twice about taking a side of a unwanted member here that has been constantly banned, deleted and blocked by moderators/administration for the constant harassment of not only one, but so many of our members. If we were to make a list of all the people he tried to hurt, torment and manipulate to acquire his objectives, it would clearly show why 'he' is the unwanted member here. Do you notice when things calm down on this site and there is less racist drama taking place, he comes back to perk up the channels or pm his enemies. This is a cry for attention, something I'm sure he is not getting at home. I think it is a better idea as some has suggested to send any and all complaints of members here for administration to deal with. Dealing with anything here is just giving him some more enjoyment.


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femalenunyabiznees | 24 January 2010 - 2:25pm

Leaa wrote:
I would seriously think twice about taking a side of a unwanted member here that has been constantly banned, deleted and blocked by moderators/administration for the constant harassment of not only one, but so many of our members. If we were to make a list of all the people he tried to hurt, torment and manipulate to acquire his objectives, it would clearly show why 'he' is the unwanted member here. Do you notice when things calm down on this site and there is less racist drama taking place, he comes back to perk up the channels or pm his enemies. This is a cry for attention, something I'm sure he is not getting at home. I think it is a better idea as some has suggested to send any and all complaints of members here for administration to deal with. Dealing with anything here is just giving him some more enjoyment.

Agreed. And despite how "cool" Gary "can be", it has gone way past that. He has done so many ridiculous things, there's no turning a blind eye & just saying, "Oh ok, tut tut, bad boy. Well, as long as you're good from now on..." I certainly don't reward my kids after they've been consistently acting like little brats. Yeah, right. There's no defense. He crapped on a lot of people, including myself. I've been here since 2001, but I can't use my other profile anymore (one I was fond of, btw) cos of his past little temper tantrum. Whatever.


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malebutterflyluva | 24 January 2010 - 3:07pm

Well I'll be a monkeys uncle....ii is THAT Gary.....the naughty one who pops on occasionally to keep us informed about the evils of Islam. Very happy
Why all the kafuffle when the bloke is no longer a member here?
Like I said, he posts a topic....ABRACADABRA...... its gone!
Any bets that this unnecessary topic will fire him up to the next level of illegal topics!
I wonder who will be in the firing line Confused
Silly move posting an open letter to someone who is not supposed to be here in the first place. Nut