Bashar and his principles
Here is a different kind of topic for a change.
I came across this person called Bashar on a torrent site then I went to the official website.
Here are the Bashar's basic message or his principles:
** You are a non-physical consciousness that is experiencing physical reality.
** You were created in the image of The Creator, your essential essence is unconditional love and the experience of ecstasy is your birthright.
** You are here on Earth at this time because you chose to be.
** The highest purpose of your life is to be yourself to the best of your ability and live each moment as fully as possible.
** You always have free will and the freedom to choose.
** Anything you can imagine is possible for you to experience.
** You attract your life experiences through the interaction of your strongest beliefs, emotions and
actions.
** Excitement is the physical translation of the vibrational resonance that is your true, core natural
being. Follow your excitement!
** You are naturally abundant and your choices are always supported by Creation.
** There are only Four Laws in Creation:
1. You exist.
2. The One is All and the All are One .
3. What you put out is what you get back.
4. Change is the only constant...
Except for the first three laws, which never change.
** There is actually only one moment in Creation. Everything you experience is the same moment
from a different point of view.
** You create the past and the future from the here and now.
** You are an eternal being and while you may change your form, you cannot cease to exist.
** Everything you experience is another aspect of yourself.
** You are loved so unconditionally by Creation that you can even choose to believe that you are not
loved.
What do you think about these principles as it applies to your understanding, beliefs and experiences in life?
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Deeply disturbing ..... is all I have to say. It does indeed contradict itself. But I did actually laugh at the you are on earth because you choose to be. This is twaddle.
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Deeply disturbing ..... is all I have to say. It does indeed contradict itself. But I did actually laugh at the you are on earth because you choose to be. This is twaddle.
It is neither twaddle or drivel. It just take a much higher understanding and awareness.
I have come across two people who described how they choose their present birth as well as the parents. They described their past lives and how it is connected to the now.
Only those who can understand the oneness of everything and its eternal purpose will understand. There are many who do.
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“The One we are waiting for and the One we have been looking for is already here, and has been for a long time. You are the spiritual being you have been searching to find.” ---Dr. John-Roger
Deeply disturbing ..... is all I have to say. It does indeed contradict itself. But I did actually laugh at the you are on earth because you choose to be. This is twaddle.
It is neither twaddle or drivel. It just take a much higher understanding and awareness.
I have come across two people who described how they choose their present birth as well as the parents. They described their past lives and how it is connected to the now.
Only those who can understand the oneness of everything and its eternal purpose will understand. There are many who do.
Hmmmm, I was actually referring to the fact that it was twaddle that "I am on earth because I choose to be." In the sense of myself.
Where did you meet these people? I think I may have met a couple of people like that. Did I mention I used to be a mental health nurse?
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A strong man stands up for himself; a stronger man stands up for others.
Hmmmm, I was actually referring to the fact that it was twaddle that "I am on earth because I choose to be." In the sense of myself.
Where did you meet these people? I think I may have met a couple of people like that. Did I mention I used to be a mental health nurse?
Yes, everyone has chosen to come and experience life in a physical body. We are spiritual beings experiencing a physical, limited life. The choice is mostly unconscious but some do choose consciously.
I do not expect you to believe in these things so I won't comment more about it.
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“The One we are waiting for and the One we have been looking for is already here, and has been for a long time. You are the spiritual being you have been searching to find.” ---Dr. John-Roger
These are rantings ,even the hindu caste system rules out self chosen birth it leaves rebirth to a higher caste to luck otherwise EVERY BODY would be brahmin,.In my faith the choice as to which soul goes into which fertilisation is up to the good lord,hooooraaah....
These are rantings ,even the hindu caste system rules out self chosen birth it leaves rebirth to a higher caste to luck otherwise EVERY BODY would be brahmin,.In my faith the choice as to which soul goes into which fertilisation is up to the good lord,hooooraaah....
Not really. I personally do not see it that way. My understanding is that in order to be born to a higher caste you have to have the awareness and preparation for that. It takes a lot of experiences and evolution to get to that stage that is why it is not possible to just choose to be a brahman or to be born enlightened. If the mind and body is not prepared it would be very difficult to live in such a state.
You say that each soul is decided by God or the existence. I have no problem with that but to go a bit higher, God wants us to have the choice to experience life in every dimension. Why not? If the end result is safe and sure then why not make it as multi-dimensional and more varieties?
In the bible it says, "ALL things work for good for those that love God". If you can see that EVERYBODY does love God and it is our natural nature no matter how much we avoid it, forget it or ignore it. Ultimately, every experience, every life, every adventure (negative and positive) that we go through, we will return to the love, right?
Also if you can see that with God there are no accidents or coincidences and NOTHING is a waste or useless. We can choose to be born (according to our lower nature and unconscious desires) as a blind person or disabled, as a begger, a thief, a killer, a rapist, a loving parent, a stupid person
etc. which will show us different facets of yourself. Isn't that fantastic? Everything is allowed and at the end when we realize who we really are we are just like the prodigal son who comes back home. Happy Ending for everybody....hehehePeople like Buddha, Mahavir and Jesus choose the exact time and place and circumstance for their birth. You can say that their soul was in such a condition that God or the existence itself made it possible and fixed it so that it would happen according to their choice. It was the right time.
One time Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I AM". Do you see that? He was saying that he KNEW himself or was aware of himself even before Abraham was born. It is not a coincidence or an accident that Jesus was born in a Jewish environment. He choose Joseph and Mary and he choose to be a saviour. It is not a coincidence that Buddha was born in a palace and later left it. These people knew their mission for this lifetime and fulfilled it.
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“The One we are waiting for and the One we have been looking for is already here, and has been for a long time. You are the spiritual being you have been searching to find.” ---Dr. John-Roger
Deeply disturbing ..... is all I have to say. It does indeed contradict itself. But I did actually laugh at the you are on earth because you choose to be. This is twaddle.
It is neither twaddle or drivel. It just take a much higher understanding and awareness.
If we say it is twaddle, drivel, it's twaddle and drivel. You want to believe that crapola, go right ahead - but don't think you can tell us what is plainly obvious with the most minuscule amount of scrutiny.
-Bruce
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"Faith is Action, Based upon Belief, Sustained by Confidence in God's Word and His promise to perform it" ---Dr. Gene Scott
"If you have a God given talent, that is God’s gift to you. If you use that
talent, that is your gift to God." -- Red Skelton
"Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -- Nathaniel Branden
These are rantings ,even the hindu caste system rules out self chosen birth it leaves rebirth to a higher caste to luck otherwise EVERY BODY would be brahmin,.In my faith the choice as to which soul goes into which fertilisation is up to the good lord,hooooraaah....
Not really. I personally do not see it that way.
Of course you don't, you're deeply washed in this nonsense.
Next time, don't post this and don't ask our opinion and you won't be disappointed when it's called the rubbish it is.
-Bruce
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"Faith is Action, Based upon Belief, Sustained by Confidence in God's Word and His promise to perform it" ---Dr. Gene Scott
"If you have a God given talent, that is God’s gift to you. If you use that
talent, that is your gift to God." -- Red Skelton
"Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -- Nathaniel Branden
Go back two and a half thousand years and Greek philosophers were saying the same thing... oh without the weird bits though 
Go back two and a half thousand years and Greek philosophers were saying the same thing... oh without the weird bits though :D
Truth is eternal. It does manifest itself through the ages and those who are receptive and open enough will understand it. It is just a matter of how willing you are to receive and process new material without judging and condemning it beforehand.
Those who are open and willing will ask the right questions and I can help to share my own views on it.
The "weird bits" have been added by people as their own individual understanding grows.
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“The One we are waiting for and the One we have been looking for is already here, and has been for a long time. You are the spiritual being you have been searching to find.” ---Dr. John-Roger
If Bashar is anything, it is a demonic voice speaking through a fellow by the name of Darryl Anka. Darryl claims that Bashar is a being who he once seen in a UFO.
What do I think about his principles? A few items are correct...others are false, and so we can know that Darryl Anka is like the sepent in the Garden of Eden which spoke half truths.
As an example of one false hood 'Change is the only constant'. The Bible tells us something very different "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever" Hebrews 13:8 (Jesus Christ is a constant)
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You are naturally abundant and your choices are always supported by Creation
I disagree with this
If Bashar is anything, it is a demonic voice speaking through a fellow by the name of Darryl Anka. Darryl claims that Bashar is a being who he once seen in a UFO.
What do I think about his principles? A few items are correct...others are false, and so we can know that Darryl Anka is like the sepent in the Garden of Eden which spoke half truths.
As an example of one false hood 'Change is the only constant'. The Bible tells us something very different "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever" Hebrews 13:8 (Jesus Christ is a constant)
What do I think about his principles? A few items are correct...others are false, and so we can know that Darryl Anka is like the sepent in the Garden of Eden which spoke half truths.
As an example of one false hood 'Change is the only constant'. The Bible tells us something very different "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever" Hebrews 13:8 (Jesus Christ is a constant)
If something goes against your present understanding, you call it a "demonic voice"? What if your understanding about it changes later, is it still a "demonic voice"? This demonic voice is your own creation just as all the other voices. What you judge is what you will produce for yourself. Be careful what you are putting in because it will result in the same thing coming out and manifesting. As you think in your heart that is who you are. In life we should only use question marks and comma's not periods because a period means you have decided that it is not going to change anymore but life does change, isn't it?
Is it possible for something physical and temporary to be unchanging? Is it possible for a form to be unchanging or constant? The only thing that can be constant or unchanging is that which is beyond the physical or material form, right?
Jesus Christ was referring to is that which is beyond physicality. We can also achieve this and many already have. That which is eternal and unchanging (the Kingdom of God within) can be experienced and it is only that which is eternally within us is that is constant and unchanging. Jesus called this "My Father or Abba or the "I AM". When you experience something that is beyond the physical and limited, that is what is constant. That my friend, is HEAVEN and in HEAVEN nothing changes because even though outwardly something may change but inwardly you are always the same forever and ever.
The constant is called by some as "the witness" or "nothingness".
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“The One we are waiting for and the One we have been looking for is already here, and has been for a long time. You are the spiritual being you have been searching to find.” ---Dr. John-Roger
You are naturally abundant and your choices are always supported by Creation
I disagree with this
I disagree with this
Is there any lack in existence? Is there any limitation in existence? Are not the birds provided for and even sometimes you look at a begger, somehow he manages to remain alive and his meager needs are met.
In the bible God said he has given us EVERYTHING to enjoy. So where is the problem? Obviously with us, right? We are making the wrong choices and thinking of lack so naturally that is what existence gives us. We get according to what we create.
Existence is always ready to give and in fact it does. Does the rain choose or the flowers or the birds? Nature is always giving and giving. Nature is love. This is our true nature. Find it and make your choice align with your natural and abundant nature.
When you say, "I disagree" will nature contradict you? It won't so you will continue to miss out on the gifts and blessings that can be yours and you do deserve them. Everyone does.
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“The One we are waiting for and the One we have been looking for is already here, and has been for a long time. You are the spiritual being you have been searching to find.” ---Dr. John-Roger
If something goes against your present understanding, you call it a "demonic voice"?
No, I didn't say anything about my "present understanding". I said that he is contradicting Gods Word. You dont see anything unusual about a guy who claims to hear a voice from a UFO guy..... and you think he gives good spiritual advice? Take a look at this video of him...
DEMONIC??
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If something goes against your present understanding, you call it a "demonic voice"?
No, I didn't say anything about my "present understanding". I said that he is contradicting Gods Word. You dont see anything unusual about a guy who claims to hear a voice from a UFO guy..... and you think he gives good spiritual advice?
I have watched the video and I found it interesting and truthful. He is not saying anything negative, judgmental on condemning so how can it be demonic? What about all those hellfire preachers who are quoting the bible, are they not demonic? Those who speak so much negativity and judge others are not demonic?
To quote one of the comments on youtube:
"I think you just have to be ready to hear this kind of stuff. The first time I listened to Bashar I was so blown away I would bypass and skip over his videos because I thought it was a bunch of contrived crap. As I gave it another chance, more or less to prove to myself it was crap, I found that I could not do that, it started to make sense to me and I came to feel a sense of belonging here with Bashar's message. I totally understand anyone seeing him as a fake, love that we have that freedom"
Bashar's messages will help you to live with more freedom, love and joy. It won't teach you to condemn and judge. It does not matter if it contradicts the bible as long as you live with love and see everybody the same as yourself.
A truly demonic message is that which causes divisions, separations, negativity and condemnation for others. It makes people teach fear and guilt. It causes people to be dependent and not free. Does the bible teach love and freedom? If it does then I or Bashar do not contradict it.
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“The One we are waiting for and the One we have been looking for is already here, and has been for a long time. You are the spiritual being you have been searching to find.” ---Dr. John-Roger
Yes you do.....In effect you are saying that chalk and cheese are in effect the same...Taste them... What you constantly do is liken the budha with jesus..The differences between them are so GLARINGLY fundamental i am AMAZED that you do not see it...One; the budha from the lap of luxury saw life and chose to withdraw from it to find something better for HIMSELF yes HIMSELF...On the other hand ,jesus born in virtual poverty , saw life ,and instead of withdrawing ti find HIMSELF!!! he began preaching against evil..You can put this down to his torah upbringing you see One ,denying the congregation by cutting off from them is forbidden...The budha put himself first,,,,jesus put the congregation first and himself afterwards...Here is your basic irreconcilable difference between the two..I know virtually nothing of christianity so i will give a jewish example...We begin with ,,,,he who separates himself from the congregation is evil...
Once upon a time there was a famine in all the area south of jerusalem.One hugely wealthy landowner said scroo this and he packed up his camels and "the wife" and two sons ,,said "i'm OK ,,,bugger you jack...He descended to the vale of jordan and crossed the river to where there was no famine..Like the budha ,he deserted...His name was elimelech the deserter,his riches could have helped his bretheren but his actions showed that he could't give a hoot about them...he took non jewish wives for his sons ,then god whacked he and his sons...As i said ,jesus did not separate himself from the congregation,he tried to show them the error of their ways..So you see , you cannot with ANY accuracy compare jesus with the budha...
here endeth the lesson ..
What you constantly do is liken the budha with jesus..The differences between them are so GLARINGLY fundamental i am AMAZED that you do not see it...One; the budha from the lap of luxury saw life and chose to withdraw from it to find something better for HIMSELF yes HIMSELF...On the other hand ,jesus born in virtual poverty , saw life ,and instead of withdrawing ti find HIMSELF!!! he began preaching against evil..You can put this down to his torah upbringing you see One ,denying the congregation by cutting off from them is forbidden...The budha put himself first,,,,jesus put the congregation first and himself afterwards...Here is your basic irreconcilable difference between the two.
The Buddha (Gautama Siddhartha) experienced everything that riches and luxury can bring. He had everything he could ever wish for and he found out that this is not ETERNAL. He realized that this is all temporary and does not satisfy the void he felt within himself. He discovered that people aged and died despite all the efforts to hide this from him. He went to the forrest leaving his wife and new born child. After his enlightenment he taught the people and went from village to village. He preached what he had experienced. He did care about people. He did not go hide and live in a cave. He was seen by people, they asked him questions and sat with him.
Jesus was born as a carpenter's son. At the young age of 12 he WITHDREW to find himself. He started his service to the congregation at the age of 30. He also like the buddha withdrew to find himself and his relationship with Existence or God. It was only after he knew HIMSELF as the Son of God that he started to serve his people.
There is no irreconcilable difference.
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“The One we are waiting for and the One we have been looking for is already here, and has been for a long time. You are the spiritual being you have been searching to find.” ---Dr. John-Roger
At the young age of 12 he WITHDREW to find himself.
This is a perversion. The Bible does not say that.
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[ What you judge is what you will produce for yourself.
HAHAHAHHAHAHA Hardly.
Be careful what you are putting in because it will result in the same thing coming out and manifesting.
This from someone who tried to justify murder.
Jesus Christ was referring to is that which is beyond physicality.
Riiiigggght....this coming from someone who has demonstrated a complete lack of knowledge here.
We can also achieve this and many already have. ...
That which is eternal and unchanging (the Kingdom of God within) can be experienced and it is only that which is eternally within us is that is constant and unchanging.
And this statement shows why...
Jesus called this "My Father or Abba or the "I AM".
As does this statement. Abba does not translate to I AM. And father is never "THIS"
You have just demonstrated you ignorance.
-Bruce
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"Faith is Action, Based upon Belief, Sustained by Confidence in God's Word and His promise to perform it" ---Dr. Gene Scott
"If you have a God given talent, that is God’s gift to you. If you use that
talent, that is your gift to God." -- Red Skelton
"Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -- Nathaniel Branden
At the young age of 12 he WITHDREW to find himself.
This is a perversion. The Bible does not say that.
Jesus was 12 when he is last mentioned going to the temple with his parents and talking with the priests. He stayed behind and his parents went back to look for him. There is no mention of him again until he met John the Baptist at the age of 30.
Where did he go these missing 18 years? If he did not spend his time knowing himself and God then what else did he do?
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“The One we are waiting for and the One we have been looking for is already here, and has been for a long time. You are the spiritual being you have been searching to find.” ---Dr. John-Roger
If he did not spend his time knowing himself and God then what else did he do?
Well the Bible doesn't tell us what Jesus Did during those years. However, if you read the Bible you will understand why Jesus did not need to withdraw to find himself and God. (Hint... Jesus says "I and the Father are one" John 10:30)
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Well the Bible doesn't tell us what Jesus Did during those years. However, if you read the Bible you will understand why Jesus did not need to withdraw to find himself and God. (Hint... Jesus says "I and the Father are one" John 10:30)
When Jesus said "I and my Father are one" he was already teaching his disciples at the age of 30. He was already demonstrating his relationship and oneness with God.
Even if it is not written in the Bible I am very sure that he studied, meditated and contemplated. He searched and explored deep within himself and found the Kingdom of God there.
IF as you say he did not need to withdraw himself then why did he go to the temple and inquire of the priests as a kid? Why did he reject going home with his parents? IF a person knows everything and knows God why would he ask the priests and not God himself or go within himself to find the answers?
Nature never ever makes exceptions. Everybody is born a empty vessel without any exceptions, even if he has been born with awareness. He still has to go through life learning and exploring. The only difference would be that a person born with awareness develops and evolves much faster and it is much easier for him.
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“The One we are waiting for and the One we have been looking for is already here, and has been for a long time. You are the spiritual being you have been searching to find.” ---Dr. John-Roger
Well the Bible doesn't tell us what Jesus Did during those years. However, if you read the Bible you will understand why Jesus did not need to withdraw to find himself and God. (Hint... Jesus says "I and the Father are one" John 10:30)
When Jesus said "I and my Father are one" he was already teaching his disciples at the age of 30.
So?
He was already demonstrating his relationship and oneness with God.
I see you missed the hint.
Even if it is not written in the Bible I am very sure
Really, you were there?
Why did he reject going home with his parents?
Reject? You've got to be kidding me. More ignorance.
-Bruce
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"Faith is Action, Based upon Belief, Sustained by Confidence in God's Word and His promise to perform it" ---Dr. Gene Scott
"If you have a God given talent, that is God’s gift to you. If you use that
talent, that is your gift to God." -- Red Skelton
"Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -- Nathaniel Branden
IF a person knows everything and knows God why would he ask the priests and not God himself or go within himself to find the answers?
I see you have missed the obvious again:
Luke 2:47:
And all who heard him were amazed at his understanding and his answers.
The scriptures clearly show us that he didn't need to be there at all.
-Bruce
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"Faith is Action, Based upon Belief, Sustained by Confidence in God's Word and His promise to perform it" ---Dr. Gene Scott
"If you have a God given talent, that is God’s gift to you. If you use that
talent, that is your gift to God." -- Red Skelton
"Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -- Nathaniel Branden
About half of this states the obvious. Other points contradict themselves.
Bunch of drivel.
-Bruce
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"Faith is Action, Based upon Belief, Sustained by Confidence in God's Word and His promise to perform it" ---Dr. Gene Scott
"If you have a God given talent, that is God’s gift to you. If you use that
talent, that is your gift to God." -- Red Skelton
"Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -- Nathaniel Branden